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the way i have. i love george washington. if you want to restore something, you have to first know how it was made. it's now july. and founder's friday are going strong. they're some of the highest rated shows ever. it shows that millions have a hunger for the truth. and so tonight we're going to devote another hour of history with a look back at some of the highlights from our "founders' fridays." grab a pen, piece of paper and grab your kids and join us as we continue tonight to restore history and restore america. let me tell you how this all started. woodrow wilson. i hate that guy. woodrow wilson, wanted to transform america, along with teddy roosevelt. they were both progressives. the progressive movement had started. it was 1915, to 1920. the whole thing was falling
apart. and they couldn't get america to really go for it. they couldn't get, they couldn't control americans. they couldn't do it. they wanted to transform america so they had to do three things. tell me if they have accomplished them. one, undermine faith and religion. this is the point when social justice comes in. it's no longer about equal justice. or about redemption. it's social justice. they got in the faith and religion and perverted it, controlled it. they convinced us that we shouldn't be faith-going people. these people weren't. really? god, that's so yesterday. then undermine the constitution. back at the turn of the century, people talked about the constitution. they would -- you would go places and people would say i don't think you could do it constitutionally. how many times have you had the conversation outside of the last year? most people don't know -- people in congress don't even read the constitution. and the last one was we had such an attachment to our founding fathers, because we
knew who these people were. i have to tell you, i grew up in mount vernon, washington. and i remember george washington because of a cherry pie eating contest. i cannot tell a lie. he didn't do that. why would we use a lie to describe the most honest guy we had? we have perverted them. so if we want to fix our country, we have to fix our faith and religion. in ourselves. we have to read the constitution and demand that it be followed. and we have to repair and restore our founders. look, i'm going to start tonight with a man known at the time as the father of the american revolution. which one is that? this one. he is now all but forgotten. the british virtually
destroyed his home. he had to leave his family for long periods of time. he was in continual danger of capture and debt. always. but adams had a faith in god. and he had a faith in the cause of liberty. and that's what was needed. faith. he spoke to his fellow congressmen. this is after we lost and bran brandywine and things were bleak and he stood in front of congress and said, "gentlemen, your spirits appear depressed with the weight of public calamities." he then told them, "you don't show that to the american people." he told congress, "our affairs, it is said, are desperate. if this be our language, then they are indeed. if we wear long faces, long faces are going to become fashionable. the eyes of the people are upon us." sam adams knew that if
congress openly showed their fear to the people, the cause of liberty would be over, because people will follow and say it was like when george washington wept. i don't think our leader should be crying. he also told them -- now imagine, these are the people that signed the declaration of independence, these are the brave, brave people. he said, "we have proclaimed to the world our determination to die free men rather than slaves." we have appealed to heaven for the justice of our cause. and in heaven, we have placed our trust. how great is that? how many of us have that faith now where we can say i trust you. i trust you. our cause is just. sam adams was there at the beginning. there is a reason this man is now only known for the beer. if you know about samuel adams and what he said should
be in our constitution and what he helped put in the constitution of massachusetts, if you read his words, if you actually are introduced to this man, and you know him as a man, you know him as a man of great faith, a man of fear, a man who is no different than you. your whole concept of what america is will change. >> glenn: george washington was called the indispensable man. i didn't even know why until, until -- i mean i read a lot of books on george washington, this is the best book ever written on george washington. "the real george washington." the first in a series. and i love it, because it's mainly his words. you get to know who he was. i didn't really know why he was called the indispensable
man. sorry, i like george washington an awful lot. and he's the kind of guy i've been looking for. i think we all have. we have been looking for a guy who is just honest. and doesn't want to serve. people who say all the time, "i want to be president." you do? why exactly? i can't imagine a worse job. i can't imagine. especially now. the next guy who serves, even this president, what's left of our country? how do you knit this all back together? well, quite honestly, it wasn't much different back when george washington was around. things were a mess. and he was the indispensable man because nobody trusted
anybody. all the states were arguing with each other. nobody -- you couldn't sell anything across the border. the whole thing was falling apart. here is george washington, a man whoed a 16 was out surveying land for his country, which was then great britain. all he wanted to do was go to mount vernon and be a farmer. his country, britain and then the united states of america, had him serving year after year after year after year. after he won the revolutionary war, he went back to be that farmer in mount vernon. things started to fall apart and they came knocking at his door. they said, "george, we need you, because the whole thing is falling apart." i'm paraphrasing but i think it was pretty close to --
[ pause ] "have i not yet done enough for my country?" no. he went back and he didn't say very much during the continental congress and the constitutional convention. he didn't say much. he didn't have to. he was a revered figure. that's my favorite painting of him. he was a revered figure. a guy, this was a painting done on the, just on the words of one of the -- i think it was a farmer if i'm not mistaken. a farmer came into the field one day and heard some noise and heard him standing there, or in the field and he just watched him as he got down in valley forge on one knee.
and he prayed all by himself. he's a guy that in the end could have been made king. he could have been made a ruler. he is the guy who could have been really upset at congress. boy, oh, boy, valley forge. when you think of valley forge and how many times, it wasn't just one year they were cold and didn't have shoes. they didn't have pants and it was year after year after year. joining me first of all is andrew allison, the coauthor of "true stories of america's most indispensable man." also earl taylor, the president of the center for constitutional studies. he travels around the country and he talks about george washington. how are you, guys? >> you know you said before we started that people are beginning to wake up. i think that americans are looking for somebody like george washington. here is a man who is unanimously elected as the commander in chief of the new american army. unanimously elected as the presiding officer of the
constitutional convention. unanimously elected by the electorate college twice, as the president of the united states. didn't want to do any of it. what kind of person is that? there was something in him. the subtitle on the biography is "the man who united america." when we started, we were not united. it's true, as you talked about last week, samuel adams earned the title the "father of the revolution." jeff goldbla jefferson called him the patriot of liberty. only one man to be called father of our country and that's george washington. >> glenn: is there any president in your studies, is there any president that has even come close to the role he played? right guy, right time. >> i can't point to one. >> it was his honesty, wasn't it? >> and people knew that.
they respected him. - almost god-like. that's the painting in the capitol today. >> glenn: do we have the painting in the capitol? i think dan brown talks about this. >> what is the name of the painting? >> athisiosis of george washington. >> glenn: yes, that. [ laughter ] if you look straight up, here you see george washington and he is sitting on a throne. and he's becoming god-like. what is the significance of this? >> apothiosis is a latin word raising of a human to god-like quality. that's what they felt like. they could totally trust him. >> glenn: i want to know, who
here knew about george whitefield before you were invited to come? three people. i never heard of this guy. how many read up since getting the invitation to come? okay. were you amazed at what you learned? do you think there would have been a revolution without him? there wouldn't have been. how come, america, you never heard of him? well, i'll explain throughout the rest of the everything. i have experts here to teach you about him. he is an amazing guy. there is one thing, there is one thing that i learned from george whitefield. that is individual rights and standing out alone. being a guy, this guy took eggs and tomatos to the head all the time. this guy was an outcast all the time. he was a preacher. look at him.
i don't think i could take him seriously. i hope that's not really what he looked like. he stood there and no church would let him speak. he went outside in the snow and the rain. alone. >> one thing you start with, with whitefield, he was the best known person in colonial america,. >> glenn: how is that possible? that's like all of a sudden -- i was going to say i could see it happening. like in 200 years people say michael jackson, who? what? he was that big of a rock star, right? >> yes, he was. the equivalent of someone saying they've never heard of billy graham or something like that. not to know about whitefield. he was the primary instigator of the great awakening of the 18th century. he spoke to and was seen by far the most people in colonial america. before the revolution, he was simply the best-known person in america. >> now he actually, he had this weird ability to be able
to speak in front of crowds. outside. because nobody would let him speak in church. he would speak in crowds of 20, 30,000 people. everyone could hear him and they said without screaming. right? >> that's right. >> glenn: up next, the "founders' fridays" program that people still talk me on the street to talk about. our highest rated of the series yet. back in a moment.
adams and george washington, and george whitefield. now get ready to o'hare about a group of men many probably never even knew existed. i want to show you a painting of the battle of bunker hill. here is a battle of bunker hill. a bunch of white guys, right? unless you know where to look. right here. that's peter salem. he was actually the hero of the battle. it doesn't look like he is a hero there. he looks like he's cowering behind the white guy with the sword. he was the hero of the battle. and he saved scores of american lives that day. why don't we know this? look at the picture of the battle of lexington. 150 americans. there it is. do you see any faces of color in this painting? they were all members of the
reverend jonas clark's church. they went out, if i'm not mistaken, they were in church at the time, right? >> he called them together at church. >> glenn: okay. called together at church and said let's go! they went to defend their town. when the shot heard around the world was over that day, there were american, 18 americans lying on the ground. what you don't see in this painting are the equal number of whites and blacks. they were white and black patriots. it was a mixed church. did you even know that happened? one of those injured patriots on the ground in this painting was a black man named prince estobrook. i bet you never heard of him before. how about the painting of george washington crossing the delaware? a bunch of white guys, right? no. look here. african-american. helping row the boat across.
you know what his ne was? prince whipple. he fought alongside washington during the revolution. take a look at this one. this painting of, this is the marquee, the lafayette. if you look at this, you just think, oh, yeah. then he made his slave dress up like i don't know what. but that's what you would think, right? this guy is incredibly important. this guy may have won the revolutionary war. james armistad was his name. how did he win the revolutionary war? double spy. i'm going to let david tell the story in a minute. basically, the brits thought that he was spying for them. but he was spying for general washington. he'd give the brits bad intel and reveal the good critical information to general washington. did you know this story? why? i 'm so tire ed of people say ing it was
just the white people , white people . white people. no. why are we intentionally leaving others out? there are black founders. this is our good friend david barton, the founder and president of wall builders. also author of "setting the record straight: american history in black and white." come on up here and sit here. we have lucas morrell, professor of washington and lee university in virginia. welcome. he is also the author of "lincoln's sacred effort." okay. david let me -- where do we start in maybe we should start with -- >> james armisted. a great one. james armistad after the battle of richmond, he is in virginia. a lot of battles didn't have in virginia but after the siege of richmond he is there and see what is the british have done in his home state and he goes to enlist. he said, "i want to help." i don't know why but he liked lafayette. he went to lafayette. young french general, 19 years old and said i want to fight with you. so they make an agreement and
what happens is james armistad goes over to benedict arnold's camp. british general there. traitor british general. he said the mean americans mistreat me. i have escaped as a slave. please let me stay with you. armistad says yes, you can wait on us. so he is part of benedict arnold's staff waiting on arnold's, one of the generals so he meets with all the other generals. he meets with cornwall all the time. armistad is serving them and picking up intelligence like crazy. every day he gets back with lafayette and says here is what they're doing and going to do next. he kept feeling the information back. cornwalis got comfortable with james and said you know i don't want to ask you to the something you don't want to do but would you consider being a spy against the former guys, the americans? would you be a british spy and tell us what they're doing? he said yeah, i guess if you want me to, i will. if you are going to force me to, i will. he goes back -- >> glenn: tough getting across the lines, though.
but i'll do it for you. >> i'll try it! >> glenn: right. >> so he says yeah, i'll do it. what happens is when they leave richmond they decide they are going to yorktown. they will go down there. what happens is armistad's fed all the information to washington, lafayette they're going to yorktown. he's let the british know, there are no americans around down there, safe place to go. americans are elsewhere. the british fleet drops the soldiers off in yorktown and the fleet takes off, because there are no americans around. right then the french fleet came in and blockaded the ports so the british couldn't get the ships back and now we have american troops to wait for them. pinned in on the peninsula and they can't go anywhere. he probably cut months, maybe year off the revolution by what he did. >> glenn: one thing missing in america, and it's the key to america, the difference between individual rights and collective rights and this man articulated that. >> in a spech entitled "composite nationality." douglas said i know of no right of color superior to
right of humanity. he thought the worst thing to happen to blacks after the civil war was to treat them as exceptions in the law. so today with the discursive log jam we have over things like affirmative action and the only thing you get from government is when you lie with others that look like you or categorized like you. >> glenn: your theory is this isn't taught because you don't play victim card. >> after the civil war, the history was written by the losers, where losers wrote history. >> glenn: first speaker of the house, 1789. when did we have the first black speaker of the house? i bet most people say never. >> except it was right here. joseph hayne rainy. the first black to preside over the house of representatives. these are the first seven blacks elected to congress. you have senator hiram rhodes rebels, minister of the gospel, missionary and recruited three regimen of black soldiers in the civil war and missionary to slaves
in the south. you have here benjamin turner. this guy here is really cool. robert brown elliott, probably the most brilliant guy of the era. he took on the vice president of the confederacy in a debate on the floor and tore his head off, the race with alexander stephens. >> glenn: when did we turn -- were these guys proud americans or did they say -- oh, they, this is the epitome of what we were talking about. half of the guys taught themselves to read and half of them were slaves and five years later they were in congress. as slaves it was capital offense to learn to read. these guys in five years -- if you read their speeches and record of congress, you better have dictionary and thesaurus in both hands. you won't understand the language they used. it's so brilliant what the guys did. >> glenn: part two of the black founding fathers show coming up ahead. but next, the genius that created this. our first political cartoon.
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for iraq. tom of the hour. >> glenn: a man after washington may be the most well-known founder, especially among children. the special monday edition of "founders' fridays" continues right now. tonight we are going to talk about my second favorite founder, benjamin franklin. i didn't know much about this guy. everybody knew he flew a kite, right? that's what all the kids. he went out and fly a kite and invited a lightning rod. you might have known he was an ambassador, right? did you know he was a spy? i didn't know he was a spy. he is the guy with the militia. he did the first political cartoon in america. did you know that? this guy was truly, truly
amazing. i'm joined by james throde author of "franklin, the essential founding father." how are you, sir. larry schweikart, the author of a new book "seven events that made america america". he also is the author of the patriots -- what is it, patriot history of america? right? fantastic book. where do we start on ben franklin? go ahead, james. go ahead. "live free or die." >> join or die. >> glenn: "join or die." >> this is probably where you start with franklin. one of two major franklin contributions to who we are.
he mailed hundreds of letters over the colonies and he started debates and arguments. then in june, there was going to be a meeting in albany, new york, to rebribe the indian allies on our side. the monthbe before franklin scholars believe did the drawing and did the engraving, the printing part and it appeared in his "pennsylvania gazette." you can't see it from here. oh, you can see it there. every piece of the serpent is listed as one of the colonies. based on a myth. if you chop a snake up, you have to bury the parts separately because snakes can get back together and live. that is a myth, but the picture immediately, even people who couldn't read knew
what the message was. >> glenn: a side note before you continue. i had this and this was never a flag. this was a political cartoon, later used as a banner i think carried by some. >> yes. >> glenn: never a flag. i had this made for my house, because i put old flags and banners in front of my house just to drive my neighbors crazy. this one, two years ago, we got called, the city called us and said the neighbors complained because they thought this was, that i was inciting violence. didn't he start the first interracial school? >> he was in london and saw -- because children in london were routinely abandoned. and many of them were black, because they were slaves who had come with americans or colonials and been abandoned. so he brought to america and founded network of interracial training schools for orphans.
white, indian and black. taught them trade and literacy, set them out in life and got them going. you talk about what you do with the poor. you train the poor, you educate, you set them up, you push them out. >> glenn: recognize that guy? this guy is james madison. i can't relate to a guy who wrote to thomas jefferson this many letters. these are the, these are just the letters between james madison and thomas jefferson. i can't imagine what he had in his noggin. an interlechtual force to be reckoned with. major player at the constitutional convention, referred to as the father of the constitution.
he's the guy we have to go to today. because i have been trying to restore history, at least in my own mind and trying to restore god in my own life. we have to restore our constitutio constitution. one important part of the constitution is the 17th amendment. we have a studio audience here. how many people before we called you to say hey, you want to come to the show, how many people here could say oh, yeah, the 17th amendment. i know what that is. you don't count because you're doing a constitutional thing. nobody. how many really know what it is now, the 17th amendment? okay. this is amazing. like all bad things it started in 1913. woodrow wilson yet again. he supported this. immediately now when i see woodrow wilson, i immediately know bad thing! you can be quite certain that
something is not going to have a good outcome if woodrow wilson was involved. before 1913, u.s. senators were appointed by the state legislature. madison said the house of representatives would always be a national institution because the people would be directly elected by the people. but the senate will derive the powers from the states. here is the idea. you have the senators be representatives of the state interest. like a lobbyist for the state. you think progressives would like that. the 17th amendment instituted a direct popular election of the united states senators. two senators right there, t two -- the senate shall be comprised of two representatives from each state elected by the people. why did they do this?
well, they wanted to take the direct representation out and make sure the states didn't have the direct representation. let me give you example of the 17th amendment coming in to play right now, today. obama's healthcare bill would have never seen the light of day. a lot of things they do in washington would never have seen the light of day. why? because it wouldn't be in the interest of the state. have you heard this phrase? "unfunded mandates." how did they get that passed? the senate is not looking out for your state. think of a state like massachusetts. why would they pay more in taxes for mandated healthcare when they already have that system? why would they do it? it wouldn't have worked. i wouldn't have passed. and james madison, the little teeny, oh, you little cutie pie, he knew. the founders didn't intend for the federal government to ever have that much power. they put roadblocks, step-by-step it has taken
>> glenn: welcome back. it was the friday before father's day and i thought it was a fitting time to talk about our founding fathers and what we could learn. i think there is a lot to learn from our founding fathers and not just about our country but also how to be dads. they each had a different elt, a friend of mine, author of "council of dads" and also is a guy who really opened my eyes with this book. this was, this is a -- read this book. if you don't have it, grab the book. >> glenn, nice to see you. >> glenn: how are you sir? we were talking the other day and it's strange how things work. it's all connections, isn't it? strange how things work. you've been working on this. you are a religious guy. you have written this and this is about, kind of the moses story in america.
>> yep. >> glenn: and it brought to us our founding fathers. we talk about it here. now the new book, the council of dads, a founding fathers because the council of dads were council of fathers. >> they were the council of fathers. the idea behind "council of dads" is i would ask six friends to be father figures for my children. >> glenn: right. >> one of the people i was talking to, during the process said to me well, if i was creating a council of dads for my girls i would put thomas jefferson in my council of dads. because what i did as you know in this book is say what is the one piece of advice you would give to my children? he said, no one gave me better advice than thomas jefferson. that got me thinking, what is the one piece of advice we can learn from the founding
fathers? as we laid out, they were creating not just a new country, but a new way of relating to god and a new type of man. >> glenn: in case somebody doesn't know the story, bruce is a survivor of cancer. clean bill of health? >> yes. >> glenn: he found out and said there is a chance i'm going to die. if i'm going to die, who is there to teach my children, what are they going to learn? he put a council of dads together. now it's a book. you survived. market, that's what i'm thinking. you go and learn from the experience and you share it with others. you took the idea and used it in your life for your own kids but put one together for the founding fathers. what are they supposed to teach us?
>> you have reintroduced everyone to founding fathers and i have gone through the letters here. we'll have -- you are johnny carson and i'm ed mackman. we have a line here. you are going to get a test today. >> yes, sir. >> fine. the first in the council of founding fathers, piece of wisdom is honesty is the best policy. >> glenn: founding father? abraham lincoln. no. george washington. >> older. older. exactly. number two, avoid extremes. >> glenn: probably the guy who was sitting naked in the front, in his front room, benjamin franklin. >> now they will get harder. easy ones out of the way to build up your confidence. >> glenn: who is left? >> we have george whitefield and john adams. >> glenn: you could go either way. i'm going to go john adams. >> fight the good fight? >> glenn: yes. >> no. more work needed, professor. no, fight the good fight is
actually whitefield. dare to read, think, speak and write is john adams. >> glenn: i think that is john adams. i'm that good! i want to leave you tonight with a personal thought from a dad to his children. i started life out as a pretty selfish guy. i remember when i first got married i didn't -- i really didn't want any children. now i have four. they're noisy. and sometimes sticky. but i was sitting at my dinner table. about a year-and-a-half ago. it was noisy and the kids were sticky and everybody was screaming and yelling and the dogs were barking. i realized this is the only thing real in my life. this is the best part of life. cherish your children. they will remember you. make sure you remember you
are creating memories every second you're with them. mary, hanna, cheyenne, grace, your dad loves you. >> glenn: how many here in the audience has been led to believe that in the 1790s, blacks and whites hated each other, it was slavery? raise your hand. now many people said -- look at that. we hated each other. actually the truth is with richard allen, the mega-preacher he tried to segregate. tell me the story. >> in the 1790s, he promosed having a black denomination. whites and blacks said we don't want to do that. we don't want separate denominations, we want intergrated stuff. there was an act in one church no give him impetus to
start a black denomination. for years neither black or whites wanted separate denomination because they worshipped together in philadelphia. >> no to say there weren't racists. >> there were. >> glenn: there are always racists and always will be. these are just, these are from old newspapers. this one is caesar glover, a colored man supposed to be about 80 years of age. this is an obituary. brought to africa as a slave as child. served in revolutionary war as a pensioner of the united states. what does this tell you? >> several things. that is a list of obituaries, not broken out black and white. he is right in with -- he is just a citizen. telling you who has died. didn't matter if you were black or white or anything else, you're a citizen. cigly there is the word -- significantly, there is word "pensioner." a pensioner of the united states. >> glenn: was there anything that really opened your eyes on the subject that you thought nobody knows this?
>> what opened my eyes in the state of texas, because i was walking through the texas state capitol, wandering around, i had time between meetings. i was wandering around, back under a stairway, going through the nooks and crannies and under a stairway -- the capitol, they have the people serving in the 15th or 16th, 17th legislature. a bunch were missing and tucked under the step of the capitol. i looked at them and they were all black guys. we had legislatures in texas that were 60-70% black. it looked at the guys and said i never heard this. >> glenn: america, it's time to bring them out from underneath the stairway. >> i feel like i got a great education, but what is really upsetting especially since i have seen david bar top before, and also watching the show really hacked me off, as you said, is i'm just now finding out about these things. >> this is my first time ever hearing this. i'm a little appalled.
right to vote. i thought it was 1920. >> the revolution changed a lot of things. i changed the relationship we had politically and it changed cultural things as we have seen on other "founders' fridays," the black founding fathers. at that point in time, suddenly a lot of founding fathers were able to expression themselves as abolitionists, which they couldn't do under british law. same with women. in 1776, we wiped out british governments and created new governments so the founding fathers from new jersey signed the declaration went back to write their own state constitution and in other states. new jersey they wrote in the constitution the right for women to vote. women started to vote in new jersey in 1776. that was a right founding fathers put in documents. women voted in colonial time before that. pennsylvania, french and indian war et cetera, but put it in the constitution. >> glenn: in pennsylvania, was it constant? >> it was not constant. interestingly enough, the voting rights were tied a lot of times to ownership of property. if you own property you could
vote. it makes sense. being from texas, our schools are funded from property taxes. we pay taxes for everybody going to school but 47% of the people in texas own property and other 53% don't. so majority of people tell the property owner what is we'll pay for taxes to support the kids. founding fathers said you shouldn't tell people what to do with their own property if you don't have a vested interest in losing your own property. you had to be a property owner to vote. >> glenn: if i said smartest woman founder or most active woman founder, who would you say? anybody come to mind? abigail adams. abigail adams, was she the pinnacle of active political woman? >> i think so. the reason we think that of her is her writing record. we have her letters and we don't have it with a lot of other women so we don't know as much in part. abigail was the bread-winner
the family. when john adams joined the continental congress he gave up his law practice. that was half of their income. abigail said i'll take over the other half and become a farmeress and hope to be as good as you are a statesman. >> glenn: farmeress. >> yes, farmeress and by all accounts she was better than he was. he getting letters from the neighbors saying abigail is doing a good job, better than you ever did. >> glenn: may i just say -- my mother-in-law is in the audience so close your ears. sometimes guys pretend to be bad at stuff so then the wife -- honey, you are so good at that! i just think -- it's like wrapping presents. you know your husband stinks at wrapping presents so on christmas eve you are wrapping all the presents. really, we're better than you. we are! >> that is true. >> your husband gets worse when he wraps presents.